tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2107060758629396184.post3184449339641618243..comments2024-03-26T23:23:06.905-07:00Comments on Blogger in Middle-earth: Proficiency and Deliberative PracticeBlogger In Middle-earthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08722634477041121797noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2107060758629396184.post-85727348300379736692009-06-04T02:33:45.791-07:002009-06-04T02:33:45.791-07:00Heya Sue!
What's copy-n-paste for if y'ca...Heya Sue!<br /><br />What's copy-n-paste for if y'can't use it when you want to say the same thing to two people at opposite corners of the world?<br /><br />I agree with what you say about perception of experts and online presence. My feeling is that the mystique associated with that 'online presence' is a perception that could be deceptive. On another tack, not every workplace has the environment for people to create these online presences. By default, people get dubbed as experts, and not just online experts either.<br /><br />But what you said in your PS about the people who know how to find the info - THESE are today's experts. They don't acquire that expertise by Googling or reading online manuals. They have to be practitioners who walk the talk, to use a 20th C term.<br /><br />Haere mai Andrea!<br /><br />I have always believed that teachers are more likely to gain respect from learners by showing their willingness to learn. This could mean they may have to do a bit of head-scratching and come back to assist the learner to find out how. Often the 'let's find out' approach works a treat.<br /><br />It's impressive if the instructor does this, especially if they have been truthful and already declared they didn't really know the answer to begin with. I'm with you all the way on this.<br /><br />Kia ora Virginia!<br /><br />I know where you're coming from with expertise and specialisation. But doesn't specialisation tend to veer towards being an expert if only in a narrow field? <a href="http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2009/06/does-deliberative-practice-lead-to.html" rel="nofollow">Tony Karrer's Jack-of-all-trades</a> is more the line of action.<br /><br />I found this out when I spent 3 years doing chemical research for a research degree. The field that I became an expert in was so narrow it was almost useless. What I did pick up on the way, however, was a whole range of transferable skills. That was very useful. I'm still using that range of skills 38 years on - I was quite uneducated when I started.<br /><br />Catchya laterBlogger In Middle-earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722634477041121797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2107060758629396184.post-26754961483550693652009-06-03T14:17:37.745-07:002009-06-03T14:17:37.745-07:00I think it's important to distinguish between ...I think it's important to distinguish between specialization and expertise. I am a expert in educational technology, but I don't specialize in any one (I don't program flash, use twitter, or am proficient, though not expert, in using blackboard). I consider myself an expert because I know how to integrate any technology (even one I have never used before) into my teaching or any one else's teaching, depending on their teaching style.<br /><br />I think the way you have defined expertise is more specialization. In this day an age, it is difficult to be a specialist because of the changes. Expertise means you can go into any context in your field and be proficient regardless of your experience very quickly. Novices may be able to be proficient, but they have a superficial understanding of the system, whereas an expert understands how and why things happen the way they do, even if they have never been faced with that situation in the past.<br /><br />Unfortunately, I think many businesses confuse expertise and specialization in their hiring practices. My husband's company currently is having difficulty finding an outside "expert" in cyber security. When told what to do the outside consultant can do the work. However, they are looking for someone to come in, size up the situation and environment, and tell the organization what the organization needs to do. In other words, they can find specialists in cyber security, but not an expert.V Yonkershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11910904367068063554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2107060758629396184.post-44294532476517961772009-06-03T12:47:40.141-07:002009-06-03T12:47:40.141-07:00In my business (elementary education) I see a lot ...In my business (elementary education) I see a lot of "expert cover-up." It's a problem, and I appreciate your lucid suggestions, especially:<br />-provide incentive for revisiting and refining/updating key knowledge/skills/procedures (used to be called ‘training’) to clarify current understanding<br />and<br />-foster a culture where its acceptable to ask questions to do with key knowledge/skills/procedures - in other words, it's OK not to be an expert.<br /><br />Paradoxically(?) I feel that any expertise I have attained as a teacher has come from freely admitting that I'm no expert. How is change, growth and learning possible when you already know everything?<br />I certainly support the quest for high levels of proficiency. However, I would rather be answered (by any professional) with a simple and truthful, "I do not know, but I will try my best to find out" then some fast-talking cover-up.Andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10630103304646424890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2107060758629396184.post-34096911579056765062009-06-03T12:32:41.778-07:002009-06-03T12:32:41.778-07:00Hi Ken, my apologies as I don't normally copy ...Hi Ken, my apologies as I don't normally copy my comments from other people's blogs but in this case I wanted to put it on both yours and Tony's blog.<br /><br />Flipping the conversation slightly from how "increasingly more difficult for expertise to reach expert level".<br /><br />Social media has lead to the situation where individuals are often perceived to be experts or more skilled and/or knowledgeable but not because of their actual skills / knowledge. Solely based on their level of online presences. <br /><br />Nowadays having an online presence is becoming increasingly more important to ensure others are aware of your abilities. In its absence people are more likely to assume other individuals, from similar fields, have a higher level of expertise if their online presence is stronger and "more Googleable."<br /><br />PS this is my extra comment. My attitude is today it is no longer about us being experts. It is about knowing how to find the information, being able to analyze it and who can help us connect with what we need.Sue Watershttp://theedublogger.edublogs.org/noreply@blogger.com